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smith-j
#1 Posted : Thursday, January 10, 2013 1:29:52 PM Quote
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http://www.dailymail.co....s--300-better-dole.html

Not sure what to say about the above article that can be read on the Daily Mail today. This lady has RA and works five jobs but says she is £300 worse off a month than if she stayed at home claiming benefits.

In the current climate and re-assessment, is she sure she would be entitled to benefits if she is able to physically do five jobs?

Everyone reading this article is going to assume that we can all hold down five jobs. It takes me all my time to hold down one. Now I must admit that I don't know this lady and yes she may be in incredible pain and either have a wonderful drug regime or high pain threshold. I do take my hat off to her for doing the five jobs that most abled bodied people would moan about not being able to do.

Jackie
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#2 Posted : Thursday, January 10, 2013 3:04:42 PM Quote
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Thanks for posting this Jackie.
yet again the Mail shows it is nothing more than a Tory propaganda comic.

There is definitely a number of inconsistencies there . If she can do 5 jobs , especially the cleaning and care work then she would most likely not qualify for either ESA or DLA , which would mean that the figures quoted would be wrong.
It does not state whether she is single or married ( I presume single as she is referred to as Ms) , whether she rents or has a mortgage etc etc .
Even if she qualified for DLA then that would be paid if she worked or not , and as above it is unlikely she would qualify.

If single , then she would only receive £71 pw JSA and any housing costs/rent that were eligible. This would mean that if her daughters worked then she could receive substantially less Housing Benefit/Council Tax Benefit.
Working at minimum wage of £6.19 and doing 35 hrs she would receive £216.65 . If she had come off of sickness benefits as stated she would then most likely be eigible for Disability element of working Tax credit and would receive £102 pw Tax Credits as well.

The other issue is that her daughter is doing a course .The payment for such and any concessions would be down to the daughter's circumstances NOT the Mothers.

I am happy that she is able to grip a cleaning cloth and actually clean thins without losing control of her hands for a week as happens to me :)

Somewhere , somebody is lying or at least not stating the whole truth.It is more likely that she was well enough to return to work and thus is no longer eligible for benefits :)

Onwards and upwards.

Rich :)
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#3 Posted : Thursday, January 10, 2013 3:57:42 PM Quote
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Awful.....does not seem true.
Me - I work 30 hours a week, have a family & house.
My body would not allow all the jobs stated in the daily mail the lady has - I mean, when was the last time I could kneel!
I take it the lady got a good payment for her story!

Maybe I should do a story "lady with ra sees the lochness monster"!
Hahahaha

What's your views?!
Merielpb
#4 Posted : Friday, January 11, 2013 8:18:55 AM Quote
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Yes, I'm afraid when I read this yesterday my thoughts were pretty much the same as Rich's (only not quite so coherent or polite!!) This sort of thing does nothing but damage to all people with genuine conditions that should receive the help the welfare state was conceived to provide.

I have only had RA 2 yrs, no serious damage (yet). I work a 32 hour week (sitting on my bum in front of a computer) and still quite frequently my own housework takes a backseat at the weekend while I rest for the next working week. There is no way I could work as a cleaner or a carer.
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#5 Posted : Friday, January 11, 2013 9:52:12 AM Quote
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Yes - The whole tone of this article has made my blood boil - it definitely seeks to undermine the seriousness of living with disability and the vital necessity of benefits for the most seriously disabled.

But this sounds like a remarkable woman, and I think the terrible shame is that her only options for employment are minimum wage part time jobs. I can only imagine what she would have achieved with her can-do attitude if she had not been coping with RA for the past 29 years. She has been extremely fortunate not to have incurred more joint damage and deformity over that time, since one can only assume that she would not have had access to the new meds for controlling inflammmation. And I also have to agree with Rich, if she's well enough to manage those physically demanding jobs, then she probably would not be eligible for benefits, so maybe she has less choice than the article makes out.
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#6 Posted : Friday, February 08, 2013 8:08:20 PM Quote
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I read the article and it disgusts me!

Take a good long look at this woman's hands -no swelling of knuckle joints, deformities,

nodules. (After so many years!)

Her wrists - no swelling.

Her kneeling down on one knee!

It's a sick joke.

My guess is that she had some type of juvenile arthritis which she grew out of, if indeed she

ever had it in the first place.

Septic arthritis is treated with very long Antibiotic treatment.

How sad for all with Rheumatoid Arthritis that so many people will have read the article.

FionaThumbDown



jenni_b
#7 Posted : Saturday, February 09, 2013 9:11:57 AM Quote
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I have a contact locally with ra
She tells me its 'mind over matter'
She plays tennis
Retiled her bathroom
Works
Shows dogs (they have 3)

You'd never know she had ra
She's on mtx
Every now and then she gets an ache in one finger

It's a world away from me!
There's a huge range

The daily mail- it's horrid in the way it Demonises disabled people
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Dorothy-W
#8 Posted : Saturday, February 09, 2013 10:23:14 AM Quote
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this is typical of news papers, i was in cummunity care work and gave up due to r.a i worried i might drop a person as i did lose a few eggs etc,this woman is great how?why?, i gave up care to look after my late husband got a 30hr week over 3 days roll over shifts and had to do 30hr to get full working tax credits,it nearly finished me off,because of my health i gave up,when my husband died i was hit with the most awful flair and that was it i have applied for jobs since and all i am offered is 4hr a week because i am a risk,i would love to be able to hold down one job never mind 5,i am on mtx etc and yes have a mind to do things(body has other ideas)as rich says 1 day cleaning 1 week pain, i hate the way we are grouped by the media,if i could get work i too would be over the moon,dorothyConfused
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#9 Posted : Saturday, February 09, 2013 11:34:00 AM Quote
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This article will just fuel the negative attitudes we all face. People will take it at face value and think well why can't all rheumatoid arthritis sufferers do the same. The topic of disability benefits came up at my work place recently and most of my colleagues actually believe that MOST people on disability benefits and scroungers and cheats who could work if they wanted to. It's depressing. I'm afraid this is just part of the battle we face on top of our illness. Sigh......
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#10 Posted : Saturday, February 09, 2013 8:23:11 PM Quote
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This article makes me Sooooooo angry. Thank goodness I'm retired.
Officially as I'm very nearly 70 (ooh) but was medically retired at 52!!
I wish I could do my own housework (well sometimes) and the CHOICE
to go out. Simmering with rage Anne
FionaH
#11 Posted : Tuesday, March 05, 2013 12:25:01 PM Quote
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I find it very strange that there are no details of the type of RA she has or how it affects(/ed) her. How can any desicion as to her work ethic be reached without this information.

All RAs are NOT the same.

I already receive undercurrents of discrimination because I have managed to keep active (Collecting my own shopping) and having a blue badge. This article will only serve to give those people a foundation to keep on doing so.
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